the other thing is, in my loneliness moments when i've made transitions, and i made an awful lot transitions in my life, only not only religiously but in terms of the way i think. it has been very important for me to have friends in another place. let's take eboo and me. my sense is that we will remain friends forever. there might be lonely times that i would go through and he would go through in the future, but my conviction i should is that i can reach out and say this is going on, are you still there for me. and i think is really important for all of us to have a network of people who may not be immediately in our community, that we can touch the e-mail or mail or something like that. >> yeah, thank you for that. so, so one of the things we tried to do, actually what we do at iyc is where very deliberate about building that community. so interfaith leadership institute our time will we're bringing together 100, 150 students together on the campus helping them see themselves as interfaith leaders. training them, and basically setting that up to say we promise you this is not going to be as